Debit Based Economy and The Death of Common Sense

Related Issues:  Budget / Deficit , Economic Policy , Fiscal Policy

Tags:  common sense , debit , credit cards , debitbased economy

Thursday, 07/02/2009 @ 03:36 PM
To whom it may concern:

There is a letter going around the email that bemoans the death of common sense. Common sense has already died, and it began its long death throws when the Credit Card was invented. The common sense method of saving up for something, then buying it when one could afford it was replaced by the mentality of instant gratification. When this changed, common sense began its long, slow death.

As a generation was brought into the world, with the instant gratification mentality well in place, we found ourselves with a generation that wanted everything NOW. Thanks to parents who were too busy trying to pay off debits because they kissed their precious baby's butts, and gave them what they wanted, we have a generation of ungrateful brats who have no maturity. They want everything now, including promotions they do not deserve. There is no work ethic. There is no courtesy. There is no one willing to work, and wait, for what they want. There is only debit, and debtors.

It became obvious that common sense was long dead, when how easily we could dig ourselves into the debit hole became a measure of our worth as human beings. People to whom your credit rating should not matter; like employers, landlords, insurance companies, and the like, are checking it, then making erroneous assumptions because of your credit score. Have a high one, then your butt gets kissed, and the world is your oyster. Have a low one, then you are the scum of the earth, and probably a criminal to boot. Never mind that because you do not have a job, and do not have a way to pay the bills happens to be how you ended up with a poor credit rating in the first place.

It has become a simple fact: Bad credit rating equals no job.

Common sense died when we changed from a cash-based economy to a debit based economy, and that is a simple fact.

You, as our governmental representatives, should be doing your level best to change this dangerous trend. Return the economy to a cash basis, instead of how easily one can become a debtor, and that will go a long way to turning the country around.

Maybe, this will give common sense a chance to be reborn.

Sincerely
Werekitty39501
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Letter Comments
Total Comments: 34
nmcocco,  on 07/02/2009 @ 04:26 PM  wrote:
I agree. I am a student, and I hate that people look at my credit score. Like I can afford to even have one right now? I'm already in Debt because of school loans, but now I get backlashed for not having ANY credit.
Werekitty39501,  on 07/02/2009 @ 04:40 PM  wrote:
Idiotic, isn't it? You're a worthless person, because you can't dig yourself deeper. It's kind of sad, if you think about it.
harmont,  on 07/02/2009 @ 11:22 PM  wrote:
Well written. Sounds like you read Glenn Becks new book "Common Sense" - So far a good read, not done yet. -- We need to turn the people and the government around. The government is also the current teenager; I want it NOW, have no way to pay for it just give it to me and fast. PLEASE slow down and stop wasting our tax money. READ the bills that are passed, it is insulting to the people, please read them, and STOP the ear marks (both parties).
Werekitty39501,  on 07/02/2009 @ 11:29 PM  wrote:
Actually, it's because I've been on the receiving end.
tallguyryan,  on 07/03/2009 @ 11:20 AM  wrote:
Wow, well said. I feel that SO MANY of my peers, in GenX and GenY are just wasting their lives and have given up on what was common sense when I was younger, like DON'T GET A LOT OF Debt, is it really that foreign of a concept? Use your brain people!
fellowpacker,  on 07/03/2009 @ 12:59 PM  wrote:
You are absolutely right, people shouldn't by anything they can't afford to pay for at that very moment. Delaying payments in hopes of a later income is gambling.
Beldaran,  on 07/03/2009 @ 01:13 PM  wrote:
I absolutely agree with this. The amount of debt people rack up because they can't hold off on things they want and save up slowly is ridiculous. The part that makes me angry is the inability to opt out of the whole system. I have a credit card, but have only used it once, ever. I dont' need to, or want to use it. Unfortunately, that puts me at a disadvantage in terms of credit score. Luckily, I have a husband who uses a credit card and pays it off responsibly every month, so hopefully we won't be too badly hurt by the entire crazy system.
LuvNotH8,  on 07/03/2009 @ 03:46 PM  wrote:
Somehow our society now has this mentality of entitlement. People feel entitled to certain material objects and they did anything to get them. It's no wonder our economy is in shambles.
chelsme12,  on 07/03/2009 @ 05:25 PM  wrote:
Being a student, like nmcocco, I agree with your comments. It is difficult in this economical time to create credit at all . It is a hard time for everyone without having to worry about that to.
aravail,  on 07/03/2009 @ 06:12 PM  wrote:
Your credit rating does not affect whether you get a job or not. It affects larger purchases in life (education, home, car, credit, etc.). The only way to reverse this lack of common sense ... is to put the fork down. Stop. Eating. So. Much. Stop making consumption and ownership the most valued American virtues.
GAMomof2,  on 07/03/2009 @ 07:46 PM  wrote:
What about emergencies? Responsible people should be held back from getting needed funds, because of the stupid people? Nope, that's also not fair.
IllinoisVoter24,  on 07/03/2009 @ 07:46 PM  wrote:
The modern American has been plaguing themselves with the debt problems that are biting them now. I can understand debt to an extent, but people who finance extraordinarily priced homes and vehicles simply because they can befuddle me greatly.
Werekitty39501,  on 07/03/2009 @ 07:54 PM  wrote:
@aravail REALLY? So I didn't have to submit to a credit check, every time I filled out an application? Funny. I thought I had, and had ended up failing, each and every time. It's another form of discrimination, and it's used to keep people that the employers don't want to hire out of the workplace.
video_concepts,  on 07/03/2009 @ 08:46 PM  wrote:
I feel your frustration, WereKitty. After receiving one of those post Fed demeaning letters, I became angry enough to lay systematic plans to pay off all my credit cards and return to a cash basis. I mean no more Mr. nice guy! The signs are clear and our purpose is definite. There is no more room for credit cards. Everything economic is cash or debit and credit unions rather than banks from now on. I refuse to participate in Obama's economy any longer.
staceyg1976,  on 07/03/2009 @ 08:48 PM  wrote:
Credit has become a problem for this country and it has damaged our economy. Credit has been here since the beginning of time, along with bartering. Whether we like it or not it is here to stay. I believe that credit should only be used when purchusing items or getting a place to stay, because I believe that people who have worked hard to pay people or companies back for monies that they have borrowed, etc. have the privilege of the use of the credit world. Question: How can a landlord trust you if he or she does not have some type of past record of rental history. This will give he or she some reassurance that they can trust that you will pay on time. Although I believe that we should have some credit, I do not believe it is the end all and be all of the way we should live. Some people come across hard times and want to pay but simply can't. Thats when I believe that bill collectors should have plans set up that give people more than a week or two to pay.
Werekitty39501,  on 07/03/2009 @ 08:51 PM  wrote:
@staceyg1976 - That's why you bring references from other places you rented, or have a way to show you paid your bills. The fact that you got into trouble in the past shouldn't reflect badly upon you in the present.
snen,  on 07/03/2009 @ 10:41 PM  wrote:
I know how you feel, I don't have a credit score at all because I've never had a credit card; I'd rather not risk going to debt, so I just use my debit card and don't pay for things I can't afford. Because of that, I can't rent from some apartments now, even though I always pay my rent early!
hold_steady,  on 07/05/2009 @ 05:02 AM  wrote:
How do you suggest the representatives mitigate this situation? Eliminate the privatization of money lending and credit? I agree with ridiculousness of American materialism, for sure.
Treas,  on 07/05/2009 @ 05:09 AM  wrote:
Freedom means having a choice. Citizens should have the choice to spend or save. Citizens should have the choice to pay by cash or credit. Credit has always been part of the American economy.
allygirl,  on 07/05/2009 @ 07:00 AM  wrote:
I agree completely. Doesn't it make more sense to say oh, this guy has bad credit he probably needs a job so he can pay his bills, and what does your credit core have to do with how qualified you are for a job? Not that it matters right now since there are no jobs.
mturk,  on 07/05/2009 @ 07:45 AM  wrote:
I disagree. Credit is necessary and can be good or bad depending on how you use it. You can buy a car and credit and get a job and pay it back. How would you get to work if you couldn't buy that car on credit?
Werekitty39501,  on 07/05/2009 @ 01:11 PM  wrote:
@mturk - What about simply saving up for it, then buying said car with cash? That's the problem is that nobody wants to save up for anything, then they get into so much debit that it's impossible to get out of it. Credit, when used properly, can be a boon. What I'm talking about, though, is how much trouble our debit-based economy can get people into.
phydo,  on 07/06/2009 @ 03:47 AM  wrote:
More Government action? Ha! This kind of thinking is more dangerous to the freedom of the Republic than you apparently know. You are right to say it was the lack of personal responsibility but more so, greed by people running our Government and large corporations that have done us in. Like guns and drugs and nuclear power. It is not the thing that is the evil but how the thing is used. And now, our Government is giving “money” to and putting in charge the very ones that caused the problem instead of letting them fail as the system was designed. Too big to fail is a lie. Having said this I do believe that our only answer as citizens against the evil that has overtaken our system is to repudiate debt and remove our selves from the “system.” Our leaders seem do be moved, only by money. Keep it in our pockets and they will listen. This, my friend, is a good use of debt. The time has come for us all to just quit playing their game, not more “Nanny State.”
The_Guru,  on 07/06/2009 @ 07:12 AM  wrote:
I think a couple of people took what your letter said and decided there is no room for deviation from an ideology. You either go all cash or you go all credit. That's not how the world works. Never has been. There are very legitimate reasons for debt. As your letter points out, those reasons have become blurred to the point of oblivion. An emergency has become needing to buy the latest video game or the next "bling". Excellent letter...even though it will most likely fall on deaf ears in government.
Werekitty39501,  on 07/06/2009 @ 12:31 PM  wrote:
Of course people are going to take a look at it and read it wrong. The problem is that the credit bureaus have far too much power, and credit has been completely misused and mishandled. It seems like your worth as a person has been defined by how easily one can go into the hole, and it's been made absurdly easy to dig yourself so deep you can't get out, without wrecking your credit rating further, and making yourself even MORE of a second-class-citizen.
Reaganomics101,  on 07/07/2009 @ 09:20 AM  wrote:
Agreed...bad debt is being dug deep. Surprised inflation rates haven't gone up yet. We'll see of course.
atru1982,  on 07/15/2009 @ 09:58 AM  wrote:
Very well said. I saw a skit on Saturday Night Live that said it well- "Don't Buy Stuff You Can't Afford". Simple as that.
PeterLambert,  on 07/16/2009 @ 01:05 PM  wrote:
As a person who has a VERY good credit rating, I am sometimes suprised how much companies are willing to give me. I am a graduate student, and have very little income, but these companies are still just throwing credit at me. I recently applied for some credit to do some home renovations and was given a line of credit almost twice what I asked for.
Werekitty39501,  on 07/16/2009 @ 01:56 PM  wrote:
See what I mean? Incredibly easy to get yourself into trouble, isn't it? It's a trap, though, in order to milk you for all you're worth, as long as they can, until you are a worthless husk. Honestly, many people would probably be far far better off saving up the money themselves, when they can, but the spirit of self-sacrifice has been lost.
mattbuzaman,  on 09/08/2009 @ 10:14 PM  wrote:
The important thing individuals can do is to focus on supporting their friends and family. Social organization, government, would work better on smaller scales. Mass democracy does not work, especially a country of 300 million individuals. You're government should extend no further than you can walk in a day. It's easier to manage and control as a citizen.
4dramamama,  on 09/08/2009 @ 10:20 PM  wrote:
Common sense is dead. Debt is king. All hail Obama who digs a deeper ditch and then is hailed for revolutionizing the economy. Give me a break.
1artsychick,  on 09/10/2009 @ 07:13 PM  wrote:
Our friends just have to have everything, NOW. They eat out almost every night. My husband and I keep wondering how they do it...but really we know...their all in debt. We pay off our credit cards every month. The only debt we have is our house and our car. We may not go on as many trips, or have as much stuff, but we don't worry if we can pay our bills.
frank88,  on 09/10/2009 @ 07:17 PM  wrote:
Yes common sense is not so common anymore. I think common sense trully died when we allowed banks to lend 40 to 50 dollars for every REAL dollar they hold. This rate is outrageous and is the reason we are having to bail them out.
crazychicken327,  on 09/10/2009 @ 09:33 PM  wrote:
We live in a world of I WANT IT RIGHT NOW!! NO one keeps the stuff the buy... once it becomes out of style or broken... they just throw it away and buy more instead of fixing it.